Season 2 Episode 12 “Hunger” Discussion
February 20, 2010 11:37 am
February 20, 2010 11:37 am
We continue our discussions with Season 2′s 12th episode, “Hunger.” Looks like it could be very interesting. Share your thoughts with us!
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By Charlie Schmidt, February 20, 2010 @ 5:45 pm
The winning streak continues. Rating for Hunger: “A”
This episode centers on Cara, who is killed during a fight and asks Darken Rahl to make her a baneling. This creates quite a bit of suspense, in that the viewer wonders if Cara is good or bad. Does she want to become a baneling just because she doesn’t want to die, or is there a nobler purpose.
Cara did it because she wanted to continue to protect Richard. What made this episode excellent was the suspense of waiting to see if the others would discover that she had died, and then waiting to see if Cara would be willing to kill a good person.
Cara was faced with a tough choice – kill Zedd’s brother and live, or refuse to kill him and return to the underworld. Cara couldn’t kill an innocent man. Looks like Richard, Kahlan and Zedd have been rubbing off on Cara.
Cara also says “thank you” in this episode. Very un-Mord-Sith.
LotS keeps belting out superb episodes like this one. More and more, it’s clear that there will be a Season Three.
By Sparty, February 20, 2010 @ 8:09 pm
I didn’t get to see this episode yet because it doesn’t air in my area until tomorrow night. However, at work tonight I got to do the audio and see the promo for next weeks episode and it looks awesome!
By Melissa, February 20, 2010 @ 9:24 pm
OMG!! This episode was excellent. Legend of the Seeker has been doing so well this season, every episode has been something to see. Each week I can hardly wait until the next episode.
I bet Cara didn’t realize how hard it was going to be to keep her side of the bargain with Darken Rahl. I think that Richard, Kahlan, and Zedd has rubbed off on Cara. Her proposing the deal with Darken Rahl so she could go back and protect Richard, watching her struggle to get through, trying to hide it from the others, and her unwillingness to kill an innocent man. Cara has grown so much since she teamed up with Richard, Kahlan and Zedd.
I actually had tears in my eyes at the end of the episode when she could not kill Zedd’s brother and it looked bleak. She didn’t want them to see her like that and the caring in their eyes when they realized that Cara was in trouble. Who would have thought that Kahlan and Cara would have grown to respect each other or that Kahlan would have really cared if Cara lived or died. They have become somewhat reluctant friends who are struggling for the same goal, to help Richard defeat the Keeper.
I absolutely love the show and they just keep doing a wonderful job on the show. I can’t wait until next week to see where the adventure leads us next. Keep up the great job.
By John, February 20, 2010 @ 9:26 pm
“A” For the episode “D” for the amount of Kalhan
By darkops, February 21, 2010 @ 12:05 am
Bridget left a smoking crater on my mind last week. Tabrett delivered the goods (and more) this week. It’s almost too much fun.
By taryn, February 21, 2010 @ 2:55 am
Yes im in agreement with John…Was a really good episode but not enough Kahlan. I know she had a lot of the screen in Torn so probably needed the rest but she just makes the show. I think we need more mord sith entertainment too. We need to see more strong deharen empire soldiers following richard too. Dont ask for much do i. Gee Kahlan and Cara really do make this show. First time I ever had a girl crush lol.
By fuat atalayer, February 21, 2010 @ 1:45 pm
A for the episode but “F” for amount of Kahlan
Guys; i am not happy either if i don’t see Kahlan enough
that’s why, even John’s “D” is too much
Tabrett, indeed, has done good job. she was really good.
By busse, February 21, 2010 @ 3:16 pm
Nice Episode, even for the lack of Bridget. She seemed more like a “statist” than an actor … but even Richard didnt had much text.
Nice layout, nice Story for Cara … they made it now “very” clear that she would do “anything” to protect HER Lord Rahl ….
i think that was the meaning of the episode …
PS: is it not time that we get maybe some Bridget “Video” Attention on Youtube … was there none so far only those RadioGuys ? Why dont thy use that opportunity and “show” her around ?
give us more bridget … “baneling” for bridget … have to get my Dose of her EVERY DAY
By Purplexion, February 21, 2010 @ 8:50 pm
I thought the part near the end where Zedd’s brother told Cara her life was worth something and her reaction was the most touching part of the episode. It’s hard not to get emotionally involved with these characters.
Overall, ‘A’ for Cara and her ever-growing heart. I was touched how she was almost crying when she told Richard she had to take the deal to come back and protect him.
Good quality scenes for Tabrett, imo.
At the end why didn’t Richard hold onto Cara’s legs while she drank from what was left of the pool directly? That was kinda silly to me except for the symbolism of Richard saving her by her drinking from his hand.
I do have one general question….if everyone goes to the underworld when they die what is the point of trying to be ‘good’ in the living world?
By Purplexion, February 21, 2010 @ 8:56 pm
Oh, btw, just because it should be said every 5 seconds.
LOVE THIS SHOW!
It is the only show I truly look forward to seeing. It’ll suck when the season is done. =(
By Charlie Schmidt, February 21, 2010 @ 9:12 pm
@purplexion Your question about the underworld is significant. If everybody goes to hell, why be good? Perhaps there is a heaven in the LotS universe where good people go.
This episode was touching. It is fairly clear that Cara loves Richard deeply and would die to protect him. Cara is growing. She couldn’t murder Thaddicus because he was innocent.
It’s too bad that Kahlan didn’t have as many lines in this episode, but Kahlan will no doubt take center stage in future episodes.
Season Two has truly been epic so far. How long can they keep hitting home runs like this? Hopefully, for all 22 episodes.
By Sara, February 21, 2010 @ 10:30 pm
Love this episode, as I have loved all the others-how do they do it?!?! So darn good!
I thought this was a great episode for Tabrett-she really had me going there at the end! I think she is a fine actress and a hugely positive influence on the show
Not very much Kahlan
…but maybe after that double dose last week, the show people don’t want us getting too greedy? lol
@Purplexion : I was actually wondering the same thing-I wonder if there is anything in the books that might address whether or not all people just go to the underworld? I know in some mythologies, the underworld has different levels and such for good and bad but that doen’t explain why good people can end up in Darken Rahl’s clutches. Hmm….interesting question.
By Busse, February 22, 2010 @ 4:58 am
“I do have one general question….if everyone goes to the underworld when they die what is the point of trying to be ‘good’ in the living world?”
Yeah that striked me too, first second of the new Season, by then I didnt know that there is a “creator” as the counterpart.
So why should the “devil” forces to get the people faster to the underworld , “he” has time eventuall ALL of them will fall to him.
After I read the Books that is a little bit more clear, also those Baneling-Things dont exist in the series. It is also a bad turn/twitst of the story, when even “children” accept the offer of the Keeper.
I think for the third Season they should introduce “Jangan” as the main Enemy.
Hasnt Bridget not twittert, that they already “shoot” Episode 20 … so only 2 more to go, then SEASON 3 has to be on the save side … otherwise we will “lose” kahlan.
Cant wait to see , what she ist doing in her role als Robin in “best and brithest” …. hopefully its longer than “sex in the city”
By darkops, February 22, 2010 @ 9:49 am
Cracky recap for Hunger
http://deej.livejournal.com/127070.html
By Dennis, February 22, 2010 @ 10:13 am
Hunger = A. Super fun Ep. First time in my life that necrophilia has occured to me. Good story, good tension/excitement, good nekkid Cara scene. I was really REALLY bummed that Cara was getting written out of the show, but I was hopeful that they’d find some obscure majik to make her human again… yeah for the predicatibility of fantasy fiction.
Hey, if Darken just has to mumble some words and open a rift to the underworld (as he did under the “extremely hidden” majikal spring just a few hours jog from where Ted Raimi, why doesn’t he just open a rift under the campfire where our heroes are sleeping? (Aside from obviously the show would be over.)
Apropos everyone going to the Underworld when they die; the Creator is a real jerk, I’d have to say. Sounds like a horrible situation in that universe. Knowing that everyone goes the “hell”, whats the incentive to do good in life? Whatever… its Goodkind’s warped creation, not mine.
Here’s deej’s awesome recap.
P.S. If Richard would stop getting distracted with all these minor problems that come up (ADHD), and listen to Cara in the first place, they could stay focused on the quest and then Cara wouldn’t have had to give Darken a peep show. Someone get Richard some focus potion.
P.P.S. If I were Darken I would have kept Cara around for at least a quick one before sending her back to the Land of Sexual Frustrations. I heart Cara.
By Dennis, February 22, 2010 @ 10:14 am
Doah! Darkops beat me to the deej post. *wag my finger*
By Yasir, February 22, 2010 @ 11:31 am
@purplexion
“I do have one general question….if everyone goes to the underworld when they die what is the point of trying to be ‘good’ in the living world?”
The whole concept of banelings in the show is different from the books. I am not one to complain about every change since books and tv are different. In the books, keeper always had some influence in the world of living getting certain people to work for him who were living. Darken Rahl was always an agent of the keeper even when he was alive.
Also in the world of Goodkind there were two sides of the underworld or spirits as he called them..if you were good you go to the place of good spirits where keeper has no influence.
From the show’s perspective, the tear in the two worlds has given the keeper more power so we can assume that he can pull even good people into the underworld when they die. At least that’s one explanation I can think of.
@Charlie Schmidt
“This episode was touching. It is fairly clear that Cara loves Richard deeply and would die to protect him. Cara is growing. She couldn’t murder Thaddicus because he was innocent.”
I would agree with that except I hope they do keep it true to the books. Cara did love Richard but not in a sexual way, she was always the protector of Richard and consequently of Kahlan and became their best friend (both of them). She loved Richard for the kind of Lord Rahl he was and she greatly respected Kahlan and actually made her a sister of the agiel when she found out her power and the love she wielded for Richard.
By Lindsey, February 22, 2010 @ 11:34 am
@Dennis hehehe, I’m having flashbacks to Star Trek: Voyager where the joke was that they’d get home a lot faster if they’d go in a straight line instead of following every shiny object that crossed their path.
By Dennis, February 22, 2010 @ 12:47 pm
@Linsdey, Tru. We said the same thing ’bout Voyager.
By Patricia, February 22, 2010 @ 2:54 pm
This ep really sealed Cara’s true allegience for me. I’ve always had a little bit of suspicion about her motivation…I wouldn’t have been surprised, in the end when they find the Stone of Tears, if she had still been allied with Rahl. Her eyes lit up a bit too much at the end of Touched when they opened the locket to reveal the compass. What can I say? I’m a cynic at heart and I’ve been looking for clues to what motivates her. I’m happy I was wrong however; if there had been some sort of arrangement between Rahl and Cara, they certainly would have talked about it while she was dead. Also, it was pretty clear, from her actions while in the underworld, all she cares about is protecting Richard.
Tabrett was awesome. She gave Cara a desperation that was at times hard to watch…not because it was bad, but because it was so real. First, in the underworld and then later when she was hunting for someone to kill. And it was still there during the day when she was with Kahlan and Richard but it was concealed just enough so they couldn’t figure out what was happening. Great acting.
And that whole scene when they discover her secret…wow. So many emotions from someone who isn’t supposed to show emotion and again, Tabrett walked that fine line really well.
The chemistry is just amazing…week after week.
By Purplexion, February 22, 2010 @ 5:43 pm
“First time in my life that necrophilia has occured to me.” -Dennis
LOL
Patricia- You are dead on. Tabrett did a fantastic job of making her desperation real and hovering between losing it and maintaining her stoicism.
Again…cause it hasn’t been said in a few entries….LOVE THIS SHOW!
By Deidre, February 22, 2010 @ 7:17 pm
Cant say enough about this show!!! Tabrett is a great addition to the show as Cara. I loved her in the books and Tabrett has trully brought her to life!!!! Cant wait to see the rest of the Season and where Season 3 might go!!!(I am hopeful for S3)!!!
By Charlie Schmidt, February 22, 2010 @ 8:16 pm
I have often wondered what Terry Goodkind thinks of Bridget Regan’s portrayal of Kahlan. I would guess that he thinks she is superb, but it’s just a guess. Has he ever talked about her?
By darkops, February 22, 2010 @ 8:32 pm
LotS:It’s finger-licking good!
LOL. From sixphanel on Tumblr.
By RandyAW, February 22, 2010 @ 8:35 pm
Again,like “Torn”, I thought this episode was really well done. I think it gave Tabrett a nice chance to stretch her wings and as much as I love the utter contempt for everyone that she usually infuses Cara with, I did enjoy seeing her showing Cara’s emotional side.
Tabrett has really shown what a great addition to the cast she has become. At first I wasn’t sure how throwing another main into the mix was going to work, but I certainly have come to love her
ass- kicking and take no names character fully.
I hope Tab and the rest of the cast get another season to give more performances like this. It’s always easy to maintain a character but it is much harder to show another side of them and make it believable.
It’s good to see that she can hold her own with Bridget…which is no easy feat since Bridget is easily one of the most enjoyable women on TV to watch.
By kap21, February 22, 2010 @ 9:33 pm
i think cara wanted more then to just protect richard I feel like she has feelings for him more and more as each episode goes by and she says she just wants to protect him i dont know thats my 2 cents
By RandyAW, February 22, 2010 @ 9:54 pm
It does seem you are correct or so thats the impression I take from what I see.
I’m sure it will come out that she likes Richard sooner or later.
By Deanna, February 23, 2010 @ 3:48 am
We know that she is physically attracted to him. She wanted him to make love to her in the final episode of the last season.
By Sarah, February 23, 2010 @ 4:27 am
So the concensus is basically this is not the Cara I love from the books, right? It’s a random Rob Tapert character who happens to be named Cara, not based on Terry Goodkind’s? Which means we’ll never see a true Cara equivalent in the show. *sigh* I was afraid of that. :*(
By Yasir, February 23, 2010 @ 8:05 am
I don’t have a problem with Cara and Tabrett is wonderful in that role. So far the writers haven’t done anything to change Cara too much from the books.
I wouldn’t say she wanted to make “love” to Richard in last season’s finale it was more like a mord-sith thing she figured they probably will die in the quest to defeat Nicholas Rahl and might as well have some fun and pleasure before that. I feel that a big part of why she turned on Darken Rahl was witnessing the love Richard had for Kahlan even when she was dead a long time and also when Shota was telling Richard about what Kahlan did to help him the look on Cara’s face was of awe and being impressed by the power of love. At least that’s how I read it.
I just don’t see Cara as ever having feelings for Richard other than being dedicated to him as his protector and of Kahlan’s consequently. One of the qualities Richard always had and which Craig Horner is demonstrating a lot in this season is that he was a natural leader and as such inspired people to follow him and do good things.
Of course I am not a writer of the show so guess we will just have to wait and see where the writers take Cara…
By darkops, February 23, 2010 @ 9:01 am
Glad I haven’t read the books.
Take me where you will, writers! I love it! The characters and their actions are perfect to me b/c I have no comparisons to make. I’m experiencing the story as the tv show unfolds. Even if the show jumped the shark and went straight to No Undies World in a handbasket, I’d still applaud the bulk of this season as the most enjoyable string of episodes of any show I’ve ever watched.
By Dennis, February 23, 2010 @ 12:48 pm
@darkops, agreed. What he said.
(I want to visit no undies world with Tab/Cara. Bridget/Kahlan is a tight second, but Cara’s my fave. I’d even settle for lingerie world. meow)
By Sarah, February 23, 2010 @ 8:08 pm
Yeah, take it from me. Don’t read the books. I also agree with you, Yasir. I totally understand why she propositioned Richard in the season finale. She’s a Mord’Sith, he’s a man, having sex is the logical thing to do. That wasn’t remotely OOC. It’s the talk that the writers are making her have sexual or romantic feelings for Richard that makes me think she’ll be thrown under the bus. At least they’d be nixing what makes Cara integral and more like Kahlan than the other Mord’Sith. What’s dooming the show for me is losing the heart and purpose of important characters like Cara.
Plus I have to disagree she’s protective of Kahlan just as a consequence of Richard. Even in Broken they made it clear that the there is a parallel between Kahlan and Cara. Fate has seemingly robbed Kahlan of a sexual relationship with a man she loves and forced her to put her duty as a Confessor first. Yet she loves Richard for who he is as a person, not just a Seeker. Because of him she started looking for what she thought she had to miss out on.
Cara similarly was stolen from her family and brainwashed as a child. She was robbed of her self-worth as anything but a sexual being and one whose duty is to Lord Rahl. She doesn’t think she deserves to be part of a loving family. She’s supposed to look at them and comprehend that their relationship is stronger than what she’s been taught, and respect them. Not be some poor jealous rival. Being the salvageable Mord’Sith is what makes Cara unique and greater than the rest. She needs to re-learn what it is to be loved for herself as part of a functional family unit.
Not comprehending that and pathetically throwing herself at Richard is every other woman’s role. Presumably TV Cara is made for lesser things in the future too. But she’ll show cleavage, so no one cares.
By RandyAW, February 23, 2010 @ 9:31 pm
Personally I hope they don’t have Cara go all sweet on Richard. If the writers go that way with her it might be one of those “jump the shark” train wreck moments.
It does seem they will go that route and why is beyond me, it the same kind of idea someone who suffers writers block hits upon. Unless they hired one of the unemployed writers from one of those cancelled daytime soaps…in which case Cara going all hubba hubba on Richard would be the norm.
And why do I care? Well Cara can show all the cleavage she wants…I’m a leg man myself.
By darkops, February 23, 2010 @ 10:14 pm
I’m just not seeing this whole Cara and Richard thing that you guys are talking about. Maybe we’re not watching the same show?
I’ll keep it short and say that what I’ve seen is Cara coming to grips with being valued as a human being and finding her place in a world that doesn’t understand her, or want her around. She still thinks everyone hates her. She wants Richard to value her, not desire her sexually. Did anyone see that moment in Hunger where Cara said that Kahlan must think she’s a monster for taking the Keeper’s deal? Cara so very desperately wants Kahlan’s approval. She is not jealous of Kahlan. As I understand it, Cara became tight friends with Kahlan and Richard in the books. I’m just not seeing the flailing deviation yet.
By Dennis, February 24, 2010 @ 8:29 am
@Sarah, “she’ll show cleavage, so no one cares.”
This is precisely why I care so very much!
As Westley said in the greatest fantasy movie ever made, “There’s a shortage of perfect breasts in this world.”
My $.02 on turning LotS into a soap opera: it would be a tragic loss of a great show. I don’t mind the writers revealing slight glimpses of Cara’s soft underbelly, but she needs to stay hard as nails the rest of the time. As everyone knows, personalities don’t change easily (if at all); her “feelings” are very deeply concealed and should only bubble up during the rarest of extremely unusually stressful situations (such as being a zombie in Hunger). Her “feelings” for Goofball Temp Seeker were unbefitting of the character.
Cara’s views on sex ought to stay detached from emotion — that’s Kahlan’s job. Cara is business, and should stay that way.
Thats my opinion. And to the Seeker producers who spy on this site, I’m available for hire: westcoastdennis (at) yahoo (dot) com
By Yasir, February 24, 2010 @ 8:30 am
I don’t disagree with any of that and like I said before so far the writers haven’t done anything to change Cara too much. It’s more what the show runners were doing promoting this season earlier and while they did not state it explicitly they kinda left the door open for the possibility of a love triangle more so for people who either haven’t read the books or don’t care.
Also, from the posts I have read a lot of people see Cara’s actions bordering on jealousy at times which I have to admit I totally don’t see that at all. The scene in perdition when Richard came back from the underworld and immediately kissed Kahlan some people (not me) saw Cara’s reaction as being jealous.
Personally and as @Sarah mentioned above, just from the show’s perspective I see Cara as a little girl who is learning a better way to be from the life she had always known as a mord-sith. She looks out to Richard and Kahlan and sometimes does things which she feels they would and seeks their approval. We saw Richard’s worst fears earlier and I would say from this episode Cara’s worst fears are around not being able to protect Richard or that Kahlan thinking she is a monster. Even towards the end when she was dying I don’t think it was so much the fact that she was dying which brought tears it was more her worst fears I think.
Sorry guys I don’t mean to ramble on just wanted to make peace with Cara…
By Patricia, February 24, 2010 @ 9:19 am
IMO, All this discussion just goes to how *great* Tabrett’s performance really is. Everyone watches and sees something different and nobody is necessarily right or wrong. She leaves so much open, and people see different things based on their own ideas and perceptions. It’s not something that’s probably very easy to pull off but she does.
Personally, I’m with darkops…I don’t see the romantic angle or jealousy so much. And she can’t go all soft on us…wouldn’t be right. No way.
By Flip, February 24, 2010 @ 11:28 am
I thought they were due for an episode to fall flat, but I was wrong. I enjoyed “Hunger” too. Nice twists to the story. Could not wait for each next scene. Craig Patrick does such a great job as Darken Rahl, I am glad they kept him in the story line. Excellent job by Tab…her facial expressions of fighting her emotions were well done.
By darkops, February 24, 2010 @ 12:59 pm
@Flip
“I thought they were due for an episode to fall flat…”
*cough* next episode *cough*
By Sarah, February 24, 2010 @ 3:18 pm
@Dennis, your post gets an automatic A+ for quoting The Princess Bride.
I’m far less irritated now than when I first wrote, like I said. I also agree that I don’t think Cara should go soft. It’s the girly overemoting that irks me when it doesn’t seem to serve a purpose. Maybe the problem is as you said, Yasir, it was stated they were planning on making her part of a triangle. So if we know she’s supposed to be expressing something but not what it is, we’re presuming its that. At least I am. I don’t know anymore. Which means the problem is I need to spend less time reading spoilers to be zen too.
For the record, I think Tabs is awesome personally, or at least I assume so. I know nothing about the actors really. Except from Bridget’s Twitter and site.
By Dennis, February 24, 2010 @ 4:04 pm
The peeps who run this site (herblueeyes) should mock up a sister site (herblondehair) for Tabrett… mirror image format, with sister links from the home page, etc.
They’ve become the defacto site for Seeker fans anyways, and they’ve already got the server + the site code… a little tweaking and they’ll have both Seeker hunnies covered.
An idea for their consideration.
P.S. You guys see the pics of Tab from next week… HOMG what a babe! One and two.
By Lindsey, February 24, 2010 @ 4:43 pm
@Dennis Someone already runs a Tabrett Bethell fansite I’m afraid http://tabrett-bethell.com/. Not to mention…. when would we have the time? You all keep us pretty busy around here.
By darkops, February 24, 2010 @ 6:25 pm
Bridget just tweeted this for less than 3 minutes:
“… and there was no hand rope to aid her crossing. Richard offered his hand, to steady her, and she was glad for the excuse to take it…”
It quickly disappeared. LOL. I didn’t know you could un-ring the Twitter bell. Anyway, that little bit of prose comes from this page of Wizards First Rule:
Link
Soooo… did she just tease us with Mud People? Nice.
By RandyAW, February 24, 2010 @ 6:42 pm
Bridget = Our little tease.
By Purplexion, February 24, 2010 @ 8:25 pm
“Her “feelings” for Goofball Temp Seeker were unbefitting of the character.”—Dennis
Couldn’t agree more with that. I hated those scenes.
I want to see her stay mostly detached emotionally, but it is nice when she shows signs of being human again.
By Bill, February 24, 2010 @ 8:53 pm
Agree with Dennis. Like I said before, romantic feelings aren’t the only feelings a person can have. That moment between Cara and Kahlan from this last episode did more for the character and our idea of how she fits into the group than all those forced middle-school-romance shenanigans combined…
As for The Princess Bride being the best fantasy film ever made, now that we could have a talk about.
By darkops, February 25, 2010 @ 8:20 am
Killer Tabrett Bethell interview. They’re so rare!
Interview at The Torch Online
By Dennis, February 25, 2010 @ 8:35 am
@Bill, tru about middle school fauxmance. If you say Bored of the Rings is best fantasy, I’m tossing a spit ball at ya.
haha
@Lindsey, yeah but that Tab site sucks. Yours is way better. But whatever… if you’re not into it I’m sure we understand. (Psst… if you guys didn’t edit my posts for a PG rating you’d have slightly more time.
)
By Lindsey, February 25, 2010 @ 10:07 am
@Dennis And I’m sure there’s other Legend of the Seeker sites out there that say the same about us. *shrugs* I have to admit, especially here in the last few weeks, this site has definitely taken a bit of a different turn then Chris and I ever expected! Different people want different stuff out of a site, what can I say? And a lot of time the content of a site is flavored based off what the administration wants out of the site which isn’t always all inclusive. That’s one of the main reasons I like having more then one person running a place, makes sure everything’s covered. And, for that matter, it helps to establish fair and equal boundaries on things like comments. Chris will tell you, I can be a lot worse.
And what’s wrong with LotR? It was AWESOME!
By Bill, February 25, 2010 @ 10:35 pm
@Lindsey–Anyone who thinks this site sucks needs a brain scan.
@Dennis–Did you come up with “Bored of the Rings” by yourself? No way…
I will say that The Lord of the Rings is probably my personal favorite fantasy (it’s one of my favorite film series in general), and making it sound like a bandwagon jump on my part won’t change my mind (not saying you are, but many people do). I do like The Princess Bride, however, which contains one of my favorite film SCENES of all time.
Can you guess which scene?
Also, feel free to shoot me an email with your thoughts on LOTR. I’m always down to read a review/rant from my friendly neighborhood arch-nemesis. Bhpfilms [at] aol [dot] com.
-Bill
By darkops, February 25, 2010 @ 10:36 pm
Check it: Fandom
By RandyAW, February 26, 2010 @ 5:53 am
I would rather have Megan Fox play Kahlan and Meg Tilly play Cara before I would ever sit through having a tattoo like that one stuck on me.
By Flip, February 26, 2010 @ 8:02 am
RandyW, RandyW, RandyW… “I would rather have Megan Fox play Kahlan”"
BAD BOY!!!! (Even in jest). They would have to have to do the script in pictures not words.
By Dennis, February 26, 2010 @ 8:38 am
Hey Bill… haha nice burn. Yes, actually I did come up with Bored of the Rings… and Henry Beard stole the idea from me while we were boozing it up at Harvard in the late 60s. :p
Surely the Man in Black vs Inigo sword fight is inarguably the best scene from Princess Bride, and the best sword fight from any movie… but the whole film is just chock full of gems.
I’m stoked that its Friday. I get to see my girl all dolled up tomorrow at 4pm. Yay! I’ll drop you a line Bill. (P.S. The Henry Beard comment above is a joke.)
By RandyAW, February 26, 2010 @ 9:28 am
Sorry I know Megan Fox would suck all the oxygenout of the show and sadly I meant Jennifer Tilly not Meg Tilly…thats what happens on 3 hours sleep.
Major brain cramp.
By Lindsey, February 26, 2010 @ 10:04 am
@Bill Thank you!
@darkops That’s…. a lot of dedication. A lot of dedication.
By Patricia, February 26, 2010 @ 10:18 am
LOL, Lindsey….”dedication” isn’t the first word that came to mind when I looked at the pic…
By cleric, February 26, 2010 @ 1:43 pm
This was an excellent episode. If there isn’t a Season 3, there’s no justice (and no sense at ABCDisney).
I have to disagree with the people who say “don’t read the books” in order to avoid disappointment. Many of the changes are made due to the demands of episode TV. Even so, the writers, etc. are trying to be as faithful as they can to both large and small issues in the books (anyone else remember the CHIPMUNK?).
Tabrett is as perfect a Cara as Bridget is in the role of Kahlan. Brilliant casting and interpretation by the actor. Her emerging humanity is touching and the occasional levity she brings to the episodes is a welcome dash of spice.
I’m glad they didn’t opt for the “easy fix” of simply having Cara chug a bottle of the elixir, but threw a complicating twist into the stew. I do agree that the “banelings” have become a rather convenient “bad guys” mechanism–and the notion of huckstering elixir to banelings was the weakest part of the episode. Even so, in its further development of Cara, the episode was quite well done.
To my surprise, apart from “baneling syrup,” one of the weakest moments in the episode in my mind came as Cara was dying near the end and Kahlan commended her to the good spirits. That line seemed flat and unimaginative. This could be writer, director, a tired actor, the requirements of pacing, impending rain or any of a host of other things, but it presented an opportunity to reveal more about Kahlan’s changed view of Cara than was provided. Oh well, nothing’s perfect.
It appears from the preview that the upcoming episode is something of a “comic relief” break from the heavy themes, in a vein similar to that of the identity-changing pair of thieves in Season One. I wonder if the second half of Season Two will move away, somewhat, from developing Cara’s evolution/redemption into a more focused pursuit of the Stone, and also the pending question of Richard accepting, or contending for, the throne of D’Hara.
That issue could either be the Season-Two “cliffhanger” ending (assuming Season Three is good to go) or it could be resolved prior to season’s end, allowing the introduction of Jagang and the Imperial Order (alluded to in the prophecy at the Palace of the Prophets) as the Season Three threat.
I’d rather not see them rush Jagang, so there’s plenty of stuff for a Season Four–but then, there’s the whole chimes and Chainfire set of issues that could fuel at least one season. Hoping for a long run, obviously.
By Bill, February 26, 2010 @ 2:11 pm
Man, all these in-depth reviews are making me kind of sad that I haven’t ranted about the last two episodes. Oh well. I find it necessary to rest my critical eye every once in awhile in favor of just enjoying entertainment as…entertainment.
But nice reviews, everyone.
@Dennis–I’ll admit I’m not up to snuff on my American humor magazines. Haha. Regrettable, but true. And yes, the climactic Inigo sword fight is the one. I get chills every time I watch that plucky Spaniard come back from the edge of death to deliver his famous line over and over, growing progressively (and impossibly) more badass with each swing.
I can only hope to write such a scene one day. (Spoiler Alert: Yes, I’m a film student — with some very strong opinions about what the term “film student” has come to signify, but that’s another story.)
-Bill (The Not-So-Film-Studenty Film Student)