Episode 6 “Fury” Discussion
December 12, 2009 11:00 am
December 12, 2009 11:00 am
That time again. Post your thoughts on this week’s episode, “Fury.” These discussions have been a great addition, you all have very interesting insights!
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By Yoshi, December 12, 2009 @ 12:21 pm
First! Anyway…This episode looks like it’s goint to be another bloody one.
By Charlie Schmidt, December 12, 2009 @ 5:18 pm
Just saw FURY and it is a definite “A” and a definite improvement over Touched and Wizard.
****spoiler alert*******
FURY has lots of action and a few plot twists. This episode consists of Richard teaching a group of pacifists how to defend themselves from ruthless marauders. Pacifists like the Quakers and Amish are admirable but foolish, since pacifism is suicide when dealing with brutal killers. Because of magic, Richard has taken the villagers from pacifism and was starting to turn them into bloodthirsty killers.
Like the incredible Hulk, Richard had to learn to control his rage, and the scene with Zedd where Richard learned to control his anger was well done.
In this episode, Richard, Kahlan, Zedd and Cara all had significant parts and they all did well. Cara was flirting with Richard in the first scene, and that may cause problems down the road. At the end of the episode, when Cara talked to the woman head of the village, Cara seemed to be showing a little more humanity, which is nice.
LotS is back in the groove.
By Busse, December 13, 2009 @ 4:58 am
Great one to me “A” all the way.
Finally they introduced the “rage” of Richard, that will be good. And that his Rahl Background will be part of the whole understanding, even that hi is having the Gift.
Well maybe they are going to introduce the sister of light soon, maybe Sister Verna too.
This episode definetly brought the season 2 forward, and explained a ton of richards Power and it origian, and that the search for the “stone of tears” is not only a search for a “THING”
@Charlie, as wizard was episode which lead nowhere i would say you are right , they are on the track again.
By rhia, December 13, 2009 @ 5:29 am
Great episode. I luv when Richard said that he couldn’t be with woman that he love…
By Charlie Schmidt, December 13, 2009 @ 7:44 am
Not only did FURY have lots of action, it had some humor. For example, take this scene at the cave with the Minders:
Cara: Those were quick little bastards, but not quick enough. (dropping off dead beavers)
Leader of Minders: We do not eat other animals.
Cara: Actually, I found these animals at the side of the road, where they died a peaceful, natural death.
But FURY brought up the issue of pacifism, and the issue that violence tends to promote more violence. Barack Obama in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech noted that sometimes wars are just and necessary.
FURY also brought up the idea of vegetarianism – not eating other animals because animals shouldn’t be caused pain and/or killed so that humans can eat them. That is a noble sentiment, but mainstream Western religions state that God made the earth and other animals for man, and eating fish and animals is moral.
Bridget did a nice job in this episode, even defending herself against the Sword of Truth (!!!) and disarming Richard. Season Two is really rolling.
By icarts, December 13, 2009 @ 10:09 am
this episode was great! i hope the minders resurface in the show later on. i only wish that kahlan had been more central to the episode. on the whole it was an A.
By Sara, December 13, 2009 @ 3:51 pm
I thought this episode was great-definately one of my favorites of the season after Touched. I thought all the characters contributed and did a great job. I think it was a good episode for Cara too, I’m starting to warm up to her a bit-haha the hunting thing was funny.
We learn some background and the plot moves forward which is good, and the training with Zedd at the end was well done-I liked that scene a lot. And Bridget was wonderful, as always : )
good episode!
By Patricia, December 13, 2009 @ 4:36 pm
I agree; this ep was outstanding. As Charlie said, violence usually leads to more violence but this ep shows that the threat of violence, that is, being able to defend oneself, can be as potent or even more so. If the pacifists hadn’t already killed a lot of that guy’s men, then the threat would have been an empty one; however, they showed the willingness to use their strengths and skills, and the guy listened to them and backed away. Of course, he threatened violence if the pacifists were to strike first, and in so creating the same effect. It’s how countries defend themselves and it’s why nuclear power was key to the Cold War. Neither country ever intended to use the weapons but both were willing to use them and thus the threat keeping everything balanced.
Craig was excellent in this one; he does that half-crazed, obsessed role really well. And I have to add, he looked really good in this one, too; the best so far this season. At the end, when Zed was asking Richard for everything that made him mad, it was a reminder just what this poor man is going through. Everything in his life is a struggle; he’s stood up to the challenges and taken the responsibility and that makes him even more of a hero.
Bridget’s scenes were awesome and crucial; Kahlan was strong and decisive. She realized something wasn’t right with Richard, she challenged his decisions and took his sword away from him (and what a great scene that was!), and she supported him afterwards when he was trying to gain control of the rage. Her conversation with Zed at the very end sets up all sorts of future action and it makes me excited for what’s yet to come.
By flip, December 13, 2009 @ 11:00 pm
Kahlan’s scenes are more “sound bites” these days.
I loved the long scenes of Richard and Kahlan in season 1 walking, talking and interacting. Three was a crowd and now 4 certainly is. Richard is also becoming a jerk 
Kahlan might need to find another dude to hang with. I guess it would be OK to put my email here for the producers to call? LOL
I agree, good episode. Bets the last one hands down. Craig did a great acting job. Better overall plot to the episode than the norm.
I expect not to read the books until this series is done. I don’t want to change my ideals of the show. I like the fact this is all new to me unlike those who read the book and have expectations of what is and might happen.
I guess the hidden message was sometimes you need to just “kick butt”? Before your ‘butt is kicked”? But too much butt kicking and your butt will be kicked (they always told me to speak simply in english class, direct to the point).
By archer, December 14, 2009 @ 9:44 am
I agree with flip, alot of sound bites and a pretty face shots for Bridget Regan in past few episodes. Another wind blown hair shot, her screaming richard and not a whole lot of anything else lately. Everybody knows she’s one of the main Actors of the show and I think they should use her more. I have read some of the books and Kahlan is used alot more there than in the show. I know they are not following the book to the letter, but the whole book series was based on her character. Alot of this episode ( which I thought was great) centered on the Authors idea of free choice to everything.
If I’m not mistaken, (and I will double check) I think the minders village is where Richard and Kahlan return to to get married in the book. Anyways, great show and I hope they will run with where it’s leading now.
By Bill, December 14, 2009 @ 12:50 pm
Man, people have quick trigger fingers around here when it comes to handing out A’s
For me, it stumbled in some areas and excelled in others. I’ll start by saying that Bridget has been sorely underutilized in the last couple episodes. Like flip suggested, her function right now seems to be looking good (which she does, of course) and trying to convince us that Richard is a good guy. But we already know both these things, and it would be more appreciated if the writers gave her some better material to act the crap out of, which we know she can do.
On the flip side, this episode succeeded, I thought, at bringing the story back to Richard. With so much plot and new characters to deal with, Richard, who has always been the anchor of the story, seemed to be getting lost in the shuffle. This week, we returned to his personal struggle and saw him showing some emotion, which we kind of lost in his transformation to rugged badass. We caught a glimpse of the wide-eyed woods guide that originally brought us into the story.
Speaking of new characters, something very unsettling happened to me while watching this episode. It was during the scene when Kahlan’s explaining to Cara and Zedd that something’s wrong with Richard. Cara said something like “are you sure you’re not just upset because Richard raised his voice at you?”, basically accusing Kahlan of being whiny and overreacting — and for a second I found myself agreeing with her, feeling the same way about Kahlan, EVEN THOUGH I knew she was right.
To me, this speaks to what I find to be a current weakness in the writing: juggling different characters and plot developments. Ever since Cara became a regular, we’ve been constantly shifting to her point of view or following her and Richard’s relationship at the expense of all the other relationships. It’s interesting to have a cynic around, but when they’ve made Kahlan so much of an outsider that I find myself annoyed by her…then it’s time to reel in the Richard/Cara show a bit. Just my opinion.
Similarly, even though the Richard-centric story was appreciated, the script, for me, became bogged down with plot and explanation (mostly concerning the magic). I’d also like to see the writing develop some themes over a few episodes instead of introducing things all of a sudden and having to then explain it. For example, if we had been shown Richard’s anger and hostility gradually building over the course of a few episodes and come to a head in “Fury”, it would have added much more depth and made it feel more a part of the overall story. Most of the writing is great, but I think they could weave things together a bit more effectively.
Overall, the episode had some good character moments (Cara’s comments about the rabbits, Richard facing his anger) and some impressive scene execution (Richard and the Minders pillaging the village seemed intense and brutal without having to show all that much).
In my humble opinion, this episode was a solid B+.
By KP, December 14, 2009 @ 5:33 pm
I’m not sure I enjoy this side of Kahlan’s character where she believes that Richard can do no evil, that there “is only good in him.” Yes, she is in love with him but she is also the Mother Confessor with duties and a pretty big “mission” to carry out. It’s definitely making for some good drama and tension and also creating some fabulous scenes for Ms. Regan to show us her impeccable talent but on the whole, its turning her character into a slightly jaded, naive, lovestruck female. It would be nice to see her standing up for herself in that respect. We saw it briefly in the Cara-centric episode but a little more wouldn’t hurt.
Also, Cara is one the best additions to an ensemble show that I’ve ever seen.
By Charlie Schmidt, December 14, 2009 @ 6:51 pm
Cara’s addition to the cast is a huge plus. Some have complained that Cara seems to be taking time away from Richard and Kahlan, but that is wrong. Richard and Kahlan continue to be the central characters and that is unlikely to change.
It’s funny, but when I heard that Cara was being added to the cast, my initial impression was that it wouldn’t work and that Cara would just be there to have her compete for Richard’s affections. Instead, Cara has added a lot of humor to the episodes and has added audience sympathy to see if Cara can earn back her humanity. I am rooting for her to be fully accepted and trusted by Richard, Kahlan and Zedd.
As for the quality of Fury, it deserves an “A” for bringing up important moral issues such as (1) the morality of war, (2) the problem of violence producing more violence, (3) the tendency of power to corrupt, (4) how anger is a disease which can turn a good man into a bad man, and (5) the concept of loving one’s enemies. Not only did FURY bring up those important moral issues, but it had Kahlan knocking the Sword of Truth out of Richard’s hand (!!!) and had Cara making wisecracks about the rabbits. Hey, it doesn’t get any better than this.
By Bill, December 14, 2009 @ 8:48 pm
@Charlie Schmidt — I can’t really assume that your last post was addressing some of the criticisms I made in my review, but I wanted to say that I, also, am very relieved that Cara and Richard’s relationship is not a romantic one at this point.
I don’t dislike the inclusion of Cara as a major character. It’s more the DYNAMICS of the character relationships that could be handled better in some instances, in my opinion. What I mean is, it’s not that Cara gets too much screen time, it’s that when they put Richard and Cara together, they often make the other group members seem very distant or uninvolved. When Cara and Richard are walking by themselves at the end of “Fury”…that just seems like a perfect moment for Kahlan to show a hint of jealousy or SOME kind of reaction to the buddy-buddy relationship forming between them. We sometimes only feel one or two characters’ presence at a time, making the others feel like outsiders when they should, arguably, be more involved.
I don’t think it’s right to completely disregard some peoples’ opinions about Cara taking up too much time in the show. It’s a legitimate concern (I personally don’t mind her being there, but sometimes I do miss the trio of Richard, Zedd, and Kahlan because I think the character interactions were more balanced back then).
As for the episode, I stand by the B+, which I think is actually a great mark. If this episode is an A, then what happens when a much more riveting episode comes along (this season’s “Denna” or “Sacrifice”, which, thematically, were ten times more compelling than this episode, if you ask me). And as far as themes, I see where you’re coming from. It’s interesting stuff, but I think many of the same ideas were brought up and explored more effectively (and with tighter, more subtle writing) in last season’s “Deception”.
What did you think of that episode compared to “Fury”?
By Charlie Schmidt, December 14, 2009 @ 9:20 pm
@Bill “Deception” was a good episode, and I would rank it close to “Fury”. “Deception” showed that D’Haran’s could also be decent people, which is an important point. In many conflicts, many people on both sides are basically decent.
As for Cara disrupting the dynamics, think about Star Trek, with Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Those three are great, but adding Scotty adds more fun. Cara adds a lot of laughs, and there is suspense as to whether Cara (1) will develop a good conscience and become fully trustworthy and (2) will she try to steal Richard away from Kahlan. It seems that Cara will become better, and she will never be able to steal Richard away from Kahlan because their love is too strong.
Anyway, LotS doesn’t return with new episodes until January 9th, so the next 3 weekends will be repeats of episodes 1 to 3. Can’t wait for episode 7 and the return of Denna.
By KP, December 14, 2009 @ 11:02 pm
@Bill
I TOTALLY agree with this:
“When Cara and Richard are walking by themselves at the end of “Fury”…that just seems like a perfect moment for Kahlan to show a hint of jealousy or SOME kind of reaction to the buddy-buddy relationship forming between them. We sometimes only feel one or two characters’ presence at a time, making the others feel like outsiders when they should, arguably, be more involved.”
Well said.
By Busse, December 15, 2009 @ 4:54 am
@bill you got something right there, the romantic Kathlan-Craig talks with that Talk “between” the line is almost none existent compared to the first season.
Personnaly I liked those dialogs best , where all those conflicts shows , now its a little bit to much CGI and giving CARA a great part. Sometime I would compare it to “die hard” where they developed so much special Effects that you get lost in the Story
By Dennis, December 15, 2009 @ 9:11 am
The answer is: Fury is a B+.
Cara brings a heck of a lot to LotS and by no means detracts (anyone who says otherwise is being foolish). Her sarcastic sassy attitude is a welcome spice to the main trio. Her scene vs angry Richard was the most intense of this episode, and when Richard overcame her anti-magic to crack Cara’s head open = AWESOME! That was the only time in this Ep that we vocally burst out loud. I’m shocked that he could overpower Cara’s inti-magic-ness, by the way. (Richard vs his fury @ the end was cool too, but you just knew he was going to “overcome his rage” yadda yadda…)
The pacificts showed their naive stupidity about violence (inaction at any cost). The old lady was grossly inconsistent in her own belief system: she wanted to let Cara die to prevent a “killer” (Mord Sith) from going on to kill again. But the whole Ep long she wanted to let the Slavers live because “all life is scared, bla bla.” Sorry lady, INCONSISTENT. I’m heartened that so many of you correctly recognized the lunacy of Leftist appeasement as illustrated here. To quote the latin maxim, “si vis pacem, para bellum” (if you want peace, prepare for war). President Regan said the same in criticism of Carter’s appeasement policies.
I don’t mind Kahlan taking a sidebare role for now — we all know she’s the hub of this wheel and cannot truly be diminished in importance. Additional characters, side plots, and writing focus will only give LotS more endurance to evolve as a long running show.
What could have been better in Fury?
-There was a total lack of sexual tension (and like it or not prude admins, sexual themese play a large roll in LotS). Angry Richard could have dove into some Cara lustiness. You know, he’s a little possessed, little enraged, some sexual frustrations overcome him, he grabs Cara at the waist and pulls her in like a man who knows what he wants. The Kahlen’s eyes go red and she throws a right cross on Richard. That would have been fun!
-The Minder women were ugly. I thought all women in Midlands were models. It really broke my heart to see ugly women. (thats humor, folks)
Thats my take. (And hopefully the admins don’t pull my comments like they usually do.)
By Dennis, December 15, 2009 @ 9:33 am
If you have Netflix, 3:48 of Fury, Kaylah’s cleavage is reaching new heights of awesome, i.e. her costume is reaching new lows. YAY!
By Dennis, December 15, 2009 @ 9:36 am
Oh, and the awesome recap for laughs. Always so spot on.
http://deej.livejournal.com/117125.html
By Bill, December 15, 2009 @ 11:09 am
@Dennis — You can be one abrasive dude, you know that?
(and I say that with a spirit of friendly objection…)
Also, I’m not so sure that this episode was promoting military violence in the end. Personally, I agreed with Richard’s philosophy of defending oneself against attackers (the Minders’ ways seemed outdated and foolish to me), but by the end, it seemed they were kind of pushing the “two wrongs don’t make a right” idea.
Didn’t someone say “we defeated an entire army without raising a single sword” or something like that? It seemed to go against what Richard was trying to do, so I think the “message” of the episode could come off as slightly muddled.
I took it as: It’s okay to defend yourself by violent means, but, if possible, avoid conflict altogether.
By Dennis, December 15, 2009 @ 1:34 pm
@Bill, … why thank you! I prefer a confident opinion over a wishy-washy, limp-wristed, panty-waist, follow the sheeple point of view.
As for what else you said, yes thats right. They showed force, were prepared for action, violence if needed… and that stance averted bloodshed. That was in contrast to the Minders’ orig plan to bow down and pray for mercy.
Revenge for vengence sake = fail (saps you of your integrity and your soul).
Naive pacifism = fail (you’ll die or become a slave).
Peace through strength is the answer… the American way.
So Bill, think we’re agreeing more than disagreeing. Merry Christmas.
By Bill, December 15, 2009 @ 2:03 pm
@Dennis — And a Happy New Year.
God Bless America.
By flip, December 15, 2009 @ 6:37 pm
@KP (12/14)
right on, Kahlan needs to be less love-struck. Being naive does not fit her character. She needs to get more respect from Richard, not just another servant. Kahlan and Zedd are drones to Richard and it does not make sense from the transition from season 1, too fast.
Kahlan SO far is the one character to not show a lot of flaws. I understand this is going to change in a future episode.
can not wait. Love to see Bridget expand on her variety of emotional talents.
By flip, December 15, 2009 @ 7:00 pm
For you Denna fans;
a deleted scene on how Denna really cared very much for Richard;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq5SkdNp7hY&feature=related
again too bad they had to cut it out. girlz gone wild for Richard again
By Charlie Schmidt, December 15, 2009 @ 7:24 pm
Diana Steenburgen at IGN has written a thoughtful review of FURY, and here is a link:
http://tv.ign.com/articles/105/1055286p1.html
Her point that Roga’s kindness to the slaver soldier is what enabled her village to avoid a fight is perceptive. And it would have been nice to have seen Richard apologize to Cara after decking her with the Sword of Truth.
By Charlie Schmidt, December 15, 2009 @ 7:38 pm
Deejay over at LiveJournal.com has posted his satirical review of FURY at this link:
http://deej.livejournal.com/117125.html
By icarts, December 15, 2009 @ 7:42 pm
@archer, THANK YOU! i am reading the second book and richard has just left with sister verna (trying not to give anything away) and i have been despairing because hes been so dumb about kahlan’s motives and love for him. its soo nice to hear that it all works out.
By fuat atalayer, December 16, 2009 @ 1:04 am
in my opinion, its a good episode.
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finally some dark side of Richard. but rage is not something you can control easy. good luck with that
i think writers should give more about Kahlan, her stress being alone as confessor, we should see (although i prefer other way around) the tension and the conflict between Richard more. i expect someone to beat Richard really hard. he has to be beaten to get to himself. i can gladly be a volunteer the one if anyone doesn’t want to
it’s also gonna be difficult to wait till 9th of Jan to watch the new episode.
And it might be a little early but i wish you all a merry chistmas and happy new year.
best regards,
fuat
By Snow White, December 16, 2009 @ 2:11 am
I liked this episode… but I truly miss the soft, tender moments between Richard and Kahlan. I really hope that the writers bring more romance between them in the show again.
By GenghisDon, December 16, 2009 @ 9:34 am
Me too, snow white. As to pacifity and the minders, well they really had no choice in that, being spelled. I thought it was a good episode despite minimal Kahlan, and hopefully they will put some of the nice moments back in back soon. Too bad we have to wait…
By Charlie Schmidt, December 16, 2009 @ 9:40 am
Per the website TVBytheNumbers, here are the ratings for the 5th episode, WIZARD:
By Charlie Schmidt, December 16, 2009 @ 9:50 am
Here’s a link to a review of the Season One LotS DVD:
http://rev-views.blogspot.com/2009/12/legend-of-seeker-season-one.html
From that review:
Also, the reviewer puts the cost per episode at about $1.5 million, which is pretty expensive. The reviewer rightly praises LotS as a good fantasy series.
By flip, December 16, 2009 @ 12:42 pm
@Charlie… thanks for the facts and figures. I like to try and make sense of them too.
LOTS has a bad time slot here in CT (5 on Sat). Over $33m est. for the first season and season 2 has to be more expensive with higher salaries. Can 2.3m average make it? I wonder if they get much from the foreign markets. And where the heck are the action figures!!
IMHO they need to put out a movie to get a vastly wider audience to attract them to the regular series. Take one episode and expand it greatly. But what do I know. Have it 3D at IMAX too…
)) Poor Bridget saying she could not stand watching herself on her parant’s 60 inch HD TV..OMG..imagine 3D IMAX. Not for the self-conscience folks LOL…
But Eragon was total bomb of a movie. More J.R. Tolken rip-off story line but I liked the book. So I guess they would have to becareful with a movie.
Lastly I do agree somewhat with blogspot review. Bridget clearly IS Kahlan and is the strongest performer (even over Bruce Spence the veteran , Go Mad Max!!). I can not decide if Craig acting much tougher this season is helping or hurting his character. Thoughts??
By Charlie Schmidt, December 16, 2009 @ 5:46 pm
@flip Craig Horner’s acting has improved significantly from Season One. Now he seems confident and like a leader, which is good. In fact, all four of the leads are doing a good job in portraying their characters.
As for the lack of romance between Richard in Kahlan in recent episodes, that will likely be remedied in future episodes.
What is puzzling is the ratings. It seems that Season Two is pulling in lower rating than Season One, in spite of Season Two having much better quality episodes than Season One. Keep in mind that the reported ratings are the base ratings, and DVR and web viewings should raise those 2.5 to 2.3 million viewers into the 3 million range. Also, Season Two is being syndicated in many more countries this year, so worldwide ratings are probably dramatically higher than last year.
There are many things to look forward to: (1) the return of Denna in episodes 7 and 8 (and a possible fight between Cara and Denna); (2) The “Two Kahlans for the price of One” coming in episode 11, which should have some romance; (3) The resolution of the question of whether Cara will regain her humanity and learn compassion which will unfold over the remainder of the season;(4) which cast member will become a baneling, and how that problem will be resolved; and (5) will Richard’s headaches continue and will he learn to control the sword, or will the sword control him. There’s lots to look forward to. Lots is Must Seek TV.
Season Two is soaring.
By Charlie Schmidt, December 16, 2009 @ 8:40 pm
The Seekers of Love contest is back at the official site at this link:
http://www.dadt.com/lots/
The videos and the replies are funny. The contest will run for 43 more days.
By flip, December 16, 2009 @ 9:15 pm
@Charlie
Kahlan has 4 (FOUR!?)videos at Seeker of Love thingy. I thought the whole thing seemed kind of corny, I guess I was right. It down grades the show IMHO. Must be Mickey and gang thinking this a Jonas Brothers type thingy.
I am embarrassed for the actors.
By Yoshi, December 16, 2009 @ 11:17 pm
One reason that the rating is quite low is, Well not everyone can watch T.V anytime, like at the exact time they’re airing. Like me, who can’t wait and just watched it on youtube on Sauturday night. And anyway, people really dosen’t care where they really watch it, internet’s better. You don’t have to miss anything or get tired of the commercial breaks and all while ur doing something else. I really think that i need to watch it on T.V so i can help the rating up….
By Yoshi, December 16, 2009 @ 11:19 pm
One other thing is, PARENTS! They are quite sensitive at what ur watching…lol like some episode, too bloody. and other stuff…lol I”m trying to get my friends to watch it but when i accidenlty said something about lots of blood and stuff well…yea
By Shiva, December 17, 2009 @ 6:30 am
@Charlie and whoever else
This was not Cara’s primary function in the books. In fact, she had no real interest in Richard even when she had the chance. She had her own love interest and she was basically Kahlan’s closest friend. She also had a pretty big role in the book series, even moreso than Zedd in some cases. I think the show has every intention of leading us in that direction towards the end of the season. I can’t wait because I am so tired of people’s knee-jerk reactions about Cara is trying to upstage Kahlan and steal her man, etc. when that is really not the case at all.
As far as the Cara’s screentime complaint goes, anyone who is complaining about that is being ridiculous. We are 6 episodes in and I feel like the guest stars have had more screentime than any of the leads. I’m talking specifically about Touched and Wizard in which Aimee T, the guy who played Flynn, and Gabriel Mann took up the majority of those episodes.
By Dennis, December 17, 2009 @ 8:37 am
@Flip, TRU! Seeker of Love thing is SOOO corny. I also feel bad for the actors. Very dumb marketing move.
@Yoshy, TV ratings are not counted by you having your TV on. They can’t tell if your TV is on or off at that time. Ratings are counted by survey, so if you ever get a phone call asking what you watch at 4:00pm on Saturdays, be sure to tell them LotS (even if you actually watch it @ Netflix later.)
By archer, December 17, 2009 @ 11:02 am
Keep reading Icarts, things get tougher not easier for them in the books after their wedding. I’m glad to see others on this site who are following the books also. As Shiva said, Kahlan and Cara are not enemies in the books and I don’t think they are in the series either. Sure, Kahlan may look a little jealous now and then but all Kahlans been doing lately is looking all love struck over Richard anyway. In fury at the end where a lot of people are saying Kahlan should have got bent out of shape when Cara and Richard where walking together, why, she just heard the night before he has rage because he couldn’t be with the woman he loves looking at Kahlan. I really wish a network could pick up the show, even Syfy, so they could have a set time to watch the show. I think rating would really climb then. I can’t even set up a series recording because it’s syndication. As for Horners transformation into a tough guy this year, not my best choice for the part. Bridget Regan and Bruce Spence are the best actors on the show and Tabrett is growing on me. There, my two cents worth.
By flip, December 18, 2009 @ 11:10 am
From tvbythenumbers….it looks like LOTS viewer base is getting established.
Legend of the Seeker S2
1st episode– 2.58 million
2nd episode–2.24 million
3rd episode–2.504 million
4th episode–2.408
5th episode–2.30 million
would be curious if ABC/Disney is OK with this base.
Sam Raimi (LOTS EP=exec producer ) is no soft touch in this business. He was EP of Xena which ran 134 episodes and Hercules which ran 111 episodes for this type story line. I do not remember those shows but from what I do remember they not very good
Always on cable at 3 in the morning type shows next to Remco info. ads.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000600/
Reruns are giant these days and likely mean a show can run break even and still be profitable long term and worthy. Matlock still runs everyday….sheeze.
I hope Bridget and gang are happy with what they started. I think Craig Horner is happy in his role…I wonder whether Bridget could do this for a few hundred episodes though given her background of Broadway, etc… The walks to the bank would get easier.
Entertainment biz is a rough one it seems to me. …but I guess the Hedge Fund biz I am in ain’t a lot easier. Lose a pile of money and your learn fast how nasty people can be. But I never do that
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By Shiva, December 18, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
LOTS is a syndicate show so ABC/Disney should be very ok with those numbers. Shows on the CW and Syfy with similar content are getting lower ratings than LOTS and they are not in syndication and aired in more markets. Gossip Girl, for example, has lower ratings than our little show yet their cast are considered stars and their network pimps them out despite the fact that they have less than 2 million viewers and aren’t even the highest show on their network. Stargate Universe was just renewed for a second season and they had terrible ratings.
And don’t knock Xena and Hercules. Those shows were huge in their days and reruns still air in 40 countries. They still have a loyal cult following and Lucy Lawless is still doing well for herself in Hollywood. She had a big arc as a Cylon on BSG, a new movie in theaters this month, and a new tv show on Starz premiering next year.
I think the cast of LOTS will be ok after this. Bridget has an advantage in that she is American so their are more opportunities for work here than their are in Australia and New Zealand. I hope Craig and Tabrett come to the US after this too.
By flip, December 18, 2009 @ 9:09 pm
@Shiva…I will hold my “tongue” on Xena and Hercules…clearly Sam Raimi had great success, as you say.
BTW..TED Raimi (actor in a few LOTS episodes) and SAM Raimi (Executive Producer) are brothers…fWIW…
This guy Sam Raimi is a entertainment machine..look at stuff in the works!! WOW
In Development: What’s this?
1. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (details only on IMDbPro)
2. Spider-Man 5 (details only on IMDbPro)
3. The Shadow (details only on IMDbPro)
4. The Familiars (details only on IMDbPro)
5. Anguish (details only on IMDbPro)
6. Untitled Sam Raimi Project (details only on IMDbPro)
7. The Substitute (details only on IMDbPro)
8. Sleeper (details only on IMDbPro)
9. Evil Dead IV (details only on IMDbPro)
10. Panic Attack (details only on IMDbPro)
11. ArchEnemies (details only on IMDbPro)
12. No Man’s Land (details only on IMDbPro)
13. The Transplants (details only on IMDbPro)
14. Just Another Love Story (details only on IMDbPro)
15. Burst 3D (details only on IMDbPro)
16. Refuge (details only on IMDbPro)
17. Monkey’s Paw (details only on IMDbPro)
18. The Given Day (details only on IMDbPro)
19. The Dorm (details only on IMDbPro)
20. Monster Zoo (details only on IMDbPro)
21. The Wee Free Men (details only on IMDbPro)
22. “The Taking” (details only on IMDbPro)
Where do you get your data on your shows?
Bridget clearly is setting up her future career with a new movie under her belt already. Craig should be doing the same, while he can, than hanging with his mates in LA for the off season (sounds like fun though).
By Shiva, December 18, 2009 @ 9:41 pm
@flip
Tvweek.com and tvbythenumbers.com are really good sites for ratings and entertainment news. Imdb is good but their info isn’t always up to date which frustrates me. Variety and Michael Ausiello are always good for tv casting news.
Legend of the Seeker has an advantage, just like the pay cable shows on HBO/Showtime/ETC, in that because they are a syndicated show they don’t have to worry about pulling big numbers to be considered a success. If LOTS were on a major network like ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX at a set time and pulling the numbers they are now the show would be cancelled. Shows on smaller networks are pulling in similar numbers to LOTS, or lower, and still considered hits by their networks because not every household has access to their channels. True Blood, one of my favorite shows, is a major hit for HBO and their numbers for last season were about the same as Legend of the Seeker. Or look at the recently cancelled Dollhouse as an example of the opposite. They had low ratings on a major network that was really not the best home for them. If they had been on Syfy, CW or FX, they would probably still be on the air. Joss Whedon took a major gamble because of his prior history with Fox and lost big time.
By Shiva, December 18, 2009 @ 9:47 pm
I would just like to add that I don’t think ratings are the issue with Legend of the Seeker. It is how ABC/Disney chooses to promote the show that is the issue. The show is doing fine ratings wise with little help from the higher ups. They should be doing a lot more to promote the show than what they are doing. Sending out the cast to promote the show only during the season premieres and finales is not going to cut it.
By flip, December 19, 2009 @ 8:55 pm
@Shive…thanks. OK I realize I do not really understand the meaning of “syndicated”. Could you explain? TIA
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or doing “Seeker of Love” contests. Who the heck thought up that one? Is it about capturing email addresses to send out Disney garbage?
By Bill, December 19, 2009 @ 10:34 pm
Man…a lot of hatred for the “Seeker of Love” contest in here. Sure, it might be a little goofy, but I remember plenty of contests and sweepstakes of the same nature for Lord of the Rings and other fantasy movies.
It’s just another oft-used marketing opportunity that attempts to encourage fan “interaction”. I mean, it might not be popular, but it can’t really hurt, can it?
By Shiva, December 19, 2009 @ 11:15 pm
@flip
Syndication in the world of tv is when multiple tv stations buy the rights to air certain tv shows and/or their reruns without going through a major tv network. Because of this the ratings system has a little bit of a different effect on syndicated shows because those don’t have a set airdate in every city every week. For example, Grey’s Anatomy airs on ABC every thursday at 9 pm everywhere in America. LOTS airs every weekend at different times on different channels depending on where you live in the US. Grey’s Anatomy also airs reruns in syndication on various channels like Lifetime. And shows like Law and Order and Seinfeld air reruns in syndication multiple times a day on various stations all over the world. I swear you could watch nothing but Law and Order all day if you know which channels to tune into. TNT airs like 4 hour blocks everyday.
By Seventh, December 21, 2009 @ 8:16 am
Throwing in my two cents here, a different perspective, I guess?
The Seekers of Love thing – it’s obviously aimed at the shipper and/or younger fanbase, it’s something ABC is known for, they’re all about listening to fans being shippy about characters. You might think it’s silly, or hysterical, but there was a time when you believed in the characters on TV, when you’d want to MacGyver something or curse someone out like Ricky Ricardo. The contest is aimed at that (huge) fanbase.
And now, the (lack of) promotion. There’s a huge backlash against the show, from the established fanbase of the books, we’re talking millions of people spread across the planet. It’s because of untoward hostility that they’re not promoting the show in any meaningful way. Instead, they’re putting that budget towards bettering the production value of the show, getting well known faces as guest actors, diving into complex plotlines. It’s nothing like what we’ve seen in Season 1. This year’s budget is unheard of for a Scifi/Fantasy show, especially for something meant for syndication. It’s so huge, it’s nuts and totally awesome.
As for the ratings, They’re amongst the top that ABC has, Legend’s such a huge success for them, I can almost see the suits smug with themselves, the ones who thought to go ahead and make this show a reality.
By Dennis, December 21, 2009 @ 8:45 am
Seventh, if you’re connected enough to know that the Disney muckety-mucks are happy with themselves over LotS, I’ll take your word for it and be glad as well. The LotS production & creativity is actually blowing me away; I am pragmatic and not easily impressed. I hope the Blu-ray release takes it to another level as well (director’s cut editions, backstage access, etc; go wild Raimi.)
About the “Seeker of Love”, I do think it can hurt. It marginalizes the show into the cheese catagory. Fantasy already has enough stereotyping going on: loser nerds, D&D weirdos, renaissance festival kooks. It only marginalizes the show out of mainstream attention to do such a cheesy promo; only the loser-est nerds will jump on that promo, but they are already fans!
They need people like me who never watched Xena, Hercules, Buffy; never played D&D, never read the Seeker books. My peers would never think of watching LotS, and despite my recomendations to them, have not. LotS marketing jerks need to be promoting the complexity of story and characters, not puffing up the cheesiness of fantasy.
By Bill, December 21, 2009 @ 12:53 pm
@Dennis — In the spirit of debate, I can’t help but point out the lunacy of commenting on the unfortunate stigma associated with fantasy fans (stereotyping people as losers and weirdos) only to then STEREOTYPE people by saying that “only the loser-est nerds will jump on that promo”.
Now, in any other forum, I’d expect you to now accuse me of BEING one of those losers, but frankly, I think you’re above that (even if I find your execution crude at times).
I understand that some feel these kind of marketing strategies are stupid, but to say it can hurt the mainstream appeal might be a little short sighted — by the way, I completely agree with you about the need for more balanced marketing for fantasy shows and films. But, most likely, only people who WANT to find these kinds of contests will stumble onto them (with some exceptions, of course). It’s not like there’s a billboard every two feet saying “Seeker of Love Contest! Go find it online now!”, so I doubt that it’s doing any more damage to mainstream appeal than the already poor advertising is.
I don’t remember anyone getting all that worked up over the “Dress up as Gandalf and embarrass yourself on videotape, and you could win Ian McKellan’s used tissue!” contests during the time of Lord of the Rings. And that’s because there wasn’t so much need to worry and point fingers due to crappy marketing. They made sure those movies were advertised to EVERYONE.
And, like you said, they need to step it up for Legend of the Seeker a bit. Then maybe everyone wouldn’t be so tense about tainting the show’s image.
-Bill
By Shiva, December 21, 2009 @ 2:57 pm
@Seventh
I’m less concerned about the majority of book fans hating the series as they make up less than 10% of the viewership anyways. The proof is in the ratings and the show is doing quite well for itself without their approval. The ratings are solid but I can’t help but wonder if the show would pick even more ratings if the powers that be were actually sending out the actors to more promotion like shows on the major networks do. I realise this is probably hard for them to do due to the fact that an episode takes so long to make.
By Chris, December 21, 2009 @ 5:08 pm
I’m not pulling any comments, that includes yours, Dennis. There has been some interesting debate here. Just… try not to get too insulting when talking about the people who pay Bridget’s checks. I mean, they may make decisions we don’t agree with all the time and that can be very frustrating for a fan, but they are giving her a chance to work and gain exposure and build a potentially very rewarding career. I don’t think they’re actually jerks or losers, they can be wrong without being completely worthless. I’m not going to take a stand on the Seeker of Love thing… as an Admin of a fansite, I don’t really think it’s necessary to weigh in on it. I’ll let you debate it amongst yourselves. Just remember, Bridget owes these people a lot and so do we because, without them, we may never have heard of her. Just a thought.
By flip, December 21, 2009 @ 7:39 pm
@shiva
Thank you
By Seventh, December 22, 2009 @ 4:13 am
Ha, I guess MacGyver & I Love Lucy is a little too old school for most.
Shiva – No one really cares much about how the book purists feel but the undeniable fact is that the loudest voices out there are the ones that are the most displeased. Saying that you’re awesome will get you nowhere with that kind of negativity bringing you down (re: Promotion). The books have been out for about fifteen years now, there are a lot of unhappy folk out there.
Heck, even TG’s insinuated in interviews that he will not continue the Sword of Truth story until and unless Legend’s buried itself deep in the TV Underworld.
I absolutely love the books but I am thoroughly disgusted by the unhelpful criticism book purists project toward the show. You’d think they’d lost their first born to Ken Billar.
As for finding out more of the inner workings of the show (Dennis), it’s not that hard. You can sign up at ABC’s Advisory Panel’s here: http://abcstudios.brand-advisor.com/app where you’ll find out some interesting things, like how the episode promos/adverts are targeted at their largest viewership, which is women over thirty.
This article here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10607013 will give you an idea of how big of a dent Legend’s making in the NZ TV & Film industry (it’s huge).
Other tidbits come from the cast well. Craig’s mentioned the Genesis camera at the Auckland Expo. It’s Panavision’s highest end camera that Legend uses for their slow motion videography. It’s so insanely expensive, that Panavision won’t sell it anyone, you can only lease it out. It’s been used mostly in movies since most TV shows don’t have the budget to afford it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_(camera)
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Ha, wow, what a way to go off on a tangent.
By Lid, December 22, 2009 @ 4:29 am
I just adore read all these comment, and if I may suggest, why, o why, this great fansite does not have proper forum?:)
So much potential for great discussion…
By flip, December 22, 2009 @ 8:16 am
@Seventh and Dennis
IMHO a top prize that would win BIG appeal is a bit part in a show. Fly us to NZ for a week. It would not cost them a lot and it would gather every “want-a-be” they could think of.
I just wouldn’t want to be a bit part in the World of no undies, I am too modest. Maybe a Gar with coffee breath.
By Dennis, December 22, 2009 @ 10:25 am
@Chris, thank you for not pulling my comment this time. And you are very right in that BR and we fans owe the staff of LotS praise for their good work. And we should pay them as the free market allows us to: watch their show, buy products from their advertisers, buy LotS merchandise/DVD when available. … I too think a proper forum on here would be apropos. Then I could continue to the the paparika in your goulash, with perhaps less fear of my eloquent posts being pulled.
@Bill, sorry if my brusque manner continues to offend. But you know that stereotypes are based upon truthful generalities, and where there are no generalizations, there’s no wisdom. So if people want to avoid being stereotyped, then they should stop being one. Ergo my comment that the “Love” contest just adds to the fantasy stereotype, thereby marginalizing LotS. I thought it was obvious to everyone that of the 12 people who participate in that promo, all 12 would be male, never had a girlfriend (the girl in their WoW guild doesn’t count), they have an authorized authentic replica of the One Ring of Power, and they think that if they were to win that contest they’d have a real chance to score with the Mother Confessor.
And if any of you on here were among those 12, I’m sorry that the bright light of truth hurts the eyes.
By Adrock, December 22, 2009 @ 10:59 am
Flip, a contest to win a trip to NZ to be an extra = great prize. But what’s the contest? The video dating idea is a flop IMO.
I seem to recall hearing that Trek Next Gen could/would openly accept completed scripts from fans, and used them. Maybe LotS could open the gates to fan submissions, in contest format? (LotS is a linear story, unlike Trek, but they could always toss in a random Ep like Elixer.)
When the Blu-Ray comes out, they could have 5 specially marked discs that wins you a trip for two to NZ, etc.
If they got paired up with some food item (Coke, etc), under each specially marked cap is a letter; the first to spell S-E-E-K-E-R wins. That type of thing.
In the off season they ought to have the cast do some promo tours. Imagine your local renaissance festival with a guest appearance in costume. They’d sell out.
By Bill, December 22, 2009 @ 11:29 am
@Dennis — I wasn’t complaining that your manner offends me. To each his own. I simply meant that even if we don’t agree, we can still get along and have such debates.
And I suppose I agree about stereotypes starting somewhere, but I’m still hesitant to perpetuate their use myself because unless I’ve met these people or know ANY kind of information about them, who am I to judge?
Sadly, stereotypes usually boil down to a few idiots who make others with similar traits look bad. That we can agree on. …I think. Haha. You’ll have to let me know.
-Bill
By Charlie Schmidt, December 22, 2009 @ 2:27 pm
The Website http://www.TVByTheNumbers.com has reported ratings for FURY as an all-time high for Season 2, as follows:
That’s gratifying to see that LotS is starting to take off.
By flip, December 22, 2009 @ 7:47 pm
@adrock…..much better idea than what they have going, fer sure…but what do I know?? Are we the standard type fans? I assume we are as the Seeker of Love is getting zip level of interest.
hmmm what type of contest?? The easier the more you get..name, rank and serial number maybe?
@Charlie…it must be satisfying for them to enter the break on a high note.
Was in off-broadway section in NYC the other night. Cool area…I went to a jazz club there though. Some amazing old buildings.
By flip, December 22, 2009 @ 8:16 pm
Spoiler:
summaries of future episodes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Legend_of_the_Seeker_episodes
From Eonline:
Season two of the syndicated fantasy series Legend of the Seeker has seriously taken things up a notch (all while keeping dastardly but dead hottie Craig Parker employed as Darken Rahl, no less!), and we are positively dying to know what happens next in the Midlands, so we dialed up show runner Ken Biller for the exclusive scoop on the remainder of season two.
Here’s what we learned about the episodes to come, including the significance of Richard Cypher’s (Craig Horner) detour from the throne, how Kahlan Amnell’s (Bridget Regan) burden as the last Confessor could tear her away from the Seeker, and the magical loophole that might allow them to finally have some forbidden sex…
Richard Cypher, the Seeker of Truth: “Richard is confronted with whether or not he made the right decision by turning down the throne of D’hara. Would it have been better decision for him to take power and try to seize control of an army to follow him and help him in his quest? In the books, at the beginning of the second book Richard is the Lord Rahl—he has taken the throne of D’hara—but we thought it was not as interesting for us to tell a story about a guy who was already a king. You want to have characters who have less power and more obstacles.”
Impossible Sex Becomes Possible? “The show is sexier this year. We have two characters who have discovered that they were in love, but because of the natural conundrum that they are in, the sexual part of their relationship has been forbidden to them. It’s an interesting challenge to make sexy what, by its nature, has to be a chaste relationship. I will tell you that that we have not seen the last time where circumstances create the conditions by which these two characters may in fact be able to fulfill their sexual desires for each other.”
Kahlan Amnell, the Mother Confessor: “Throughout season two, Kahlan’s struggles with this incredible responsibility of being the last Confessor. Specifically, she struggles with how to continue the line of Confessors while remaining true in her love to Richard. Also, her responsibilities as a Confessor may be compromised by her desire to continue the quest with Richard—she questions whether or not she’s continuing on because of her personal feelings for him or because that’s the right thing to do.”
The Sisters of the Light and the Sisters of the Dark: “Jolene Blalock is sexy and fantastic in two episodes that are part of a big arc in January. She plays a very mysterious character called Sister Nicci. We don’t know for a while if we should trust her or not. Richard begins to manifest powers and abilities that he didn’t know he had, and in order to deal with those, he has to separate from the group. He goes off with the Sisters of the Light to a place called the Palace of the Prophets. I’m very excited for the audience to see the episodes about the Sisters of the Light and the Sisters of the Dark. It’s very intriguing mythology that gets at the heart of whether or not Richard is going succeed on his quest and whether or not he’s the master of his own fate. I think the show kind of gets better and better as the season goes on. Right after Christmas we have a really terrific run of really exciting episodes.”
Cara, Freelance Hottie and Mord’Sith: “We’ll see Cara’s unfolding humanity. She’s a severely damaged woman who was robbed of her childhood, a sense of compassion and empathy for other people. But slowly, over the course of time, she is learning how to engage in the most basic of human interaction. It’s a source of pain for her, humor for her, trouble for her, but it gives us a lot of story material. Also, we’ll see that Cara and Kahlan become very grudging allies. They don’t particularly like or trust each other, but their relationship evolves in a very interesting way, as they get to know each other better and have more experiences together.”
Zombie Madness: “One of our characters during the course of the season will in fact die and become a baneling, I won’t tell you who or how.”
Eek! Who do you think is going to die? And what else do you want to see from season two?
Visit LegendoftheSeeker.com to find out when Legend of the Seeker airs in your area.
Source: E!Online
Season two of the syndicated fantasy series Legend of the Seeker has seriously taken things up a notch (all while keeping dastardly but dead hottie Craig Parker employed as Darken Rahl, no less!), and we are positively dying to know what happens next in the Midlands, so we dialed up show runner Ken Biller for the exclusive scoop on the remainder of season two.
Here’s what we learned about the episodes to come, including the significance of Richard Cypher’s (Craig Horner) detour from the throne, how Kahlan Amnell’s (Bridget Regan) burden as the last Confessor could tear her away from the Seeker, and the magical loophole that might allow them to finally have some forbidden sex…
Richard Cypher, the Seeker of Truth: “Richard is confronted with whether or not he made the right decision by turning down the throne of D’hara. Would it have been better decision for him to take power and try to seize control of an army to follow him and help him in his quest? In the books, at the beginning of the second book Richard is the Lord Rahl—he has taken the throne of D’hara—but we thought it was not as interesting for us to tell a story about a guy who was already a king. You want to have characters who have less power and more obstacles.”
Impossible Sex Becomes Possible? “The show is sexier this year. We have two characters who have discovered that they were in love, but because of the natural conundrum that they are in, the sexual part of their relationship has been forbidden to them. It’s an interesting challenge to make sexy what, by its nature, has to be a chaste relationship. I will tell you that that we have not seen the last time where circumstances create the conditions by which these two characters may in fact be able to fulfill their sexual desires for each other.”
Kahlan Amnell, the Mother Confessor: “Throughout season two, Kahlan’s struggles with this incredible responsibility of being the last Confessor. Specifically, she struggles with how to continue the line of Confessors while remaining true in her love to Richard. Also, her responsibilities as a Confessor may be compromised by her desire to continue the quest with Richard—she questions whether or not she’s continuing on because of her personal feelings for him or because that’s the right thing to do.”
The Sisters of the Light and the Sisters of the Dark: “Jolene Blalock is sexy and fantastic in two episodes that are part of a big arc in January. She plays a very mysterious character called Sister Nicci. We don’t know for a while if we should trust her or not. Richard begins to manifest powers and abilities that he didn’t know he had, and in order to deal with those, he has to separate from the group. He goes off with the Sisters of the Light to a place called the Palace of the Prophets. I’m very excited for the audience to see the episodes about the Sisters of the Light and the Sisters of the Dark. It’s very intriguing mythology that gets at the heart of whether or not Richard is going succeed on his quest and whether or not he’s the master of his own fate. I think the show kind of gets better and better as the season goes on. Right after Christmas we have a really terrific run of really exciting episodes.”
Cara, Freelance Hottie and Mord’Sith: “We’ll see Cara’s unfolding humanity. She’s a severely damaged woman who was robbed of her childhood, a sense of compassion and empathy for other people. But slowly, over the course of time, she is learning how to engage in the most basic of human interaction. It’s a source of pain for her, humor for her, trouble for her, but it gives us a lot of story material. Also, we’ll see that Cara and Kahlan become very grudging allies. They don’t particularly like or trust each other, but their relationship evolves in a very interesting way, as they get to know each other better and have more experiences together.”
Zombie Madness: “One of our characters during the course of the season will in fact die and become a baneling, I won’t tell you who or how.”
Eek! Who do you think is going to die? And what else do you want to see from season two?
Visit LegendoftheSeeker.com to find out when Legend of the Seeker airs in your area.
Source: E!Online
Read more: http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/12/legend-of-seeker-latest-from-eonline.html#ixzz0aTSsJJTs
By deej, December 26, 2009 @ 2:25 am
@Charlie
OMG LOL. I’m flattered that you’re reading my recaps, Charlie. But just FYI, I’m a woman
By Charlie Schmidt, December 26, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
@deej,
Sorry. I pegged you wrong. My bad.
What do you think of the Seekers of Love contest? I think it’s funny.
By Dennish, December 28, 2009 @ 10:55 am
deej recaps are awesome. Best ever. The sexual references esp are so funny and so true. Gay for Kaylan picspams = awesome. I’m a guy, and deej totally nails whats going through my head. Keep it up girl.
By deej, January 2, 2010 @ 2:47 am
@Charlie No worries, it’s not the first time, and I’m sure it won’t be the last time.
The last group who thought I was a guy were funny to talk to because they’d seen the Gay For Kahlan picspams and still hadn’t put 2 and 2 together in regards to my use of the word ‘gay’ hahaa!
Re Seekers of Love: I cried with laughter for a good 10 minutes. The showrunners know exactly how we read the series and are playing it to the max. A+!
@Dennish Ha, I’m just thrilled that other people see the same
shamless raunchinesshumour in Seeker that I do.